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Vin
05-01-2006, 12:30 PM
My wife was wondering what Mark Steenhuis does when not playing for the Bandits. I didn't know but began to wonder about that for all of the other players in the league.

Maybe we can make this a long thread and write down a player and his non-NLL job?

I will start:

Player: John Tavares
Team / Position: Buffalo Bandits / Forward, Assistant Captain
Non-NLL Occupation: Math teacher at Philip Pocock Catholic Secondary School in Mississauga Ontario, Canada.

goddessoflax
05-01-2006, 12:40 PM
Welll...you know I have to add this one...

Jim Veltman, Captain, Toronto Rock
Phys Ed Teacher/Boys FieldLacrosse Coach, Agincourt Collegiate, Scarborough, ONT

And...just FYI...JT is also the lacrosse coach for the two girls field lacrosse teams.

Mtn_Scott
05-01-2006, 12:43 PM
Jamie Hanford - Face off Man Colorado Mammoth - Bond Trader
Chris Levis -Goalie Colorado Mammoth - Personal trainer to the Stars :rotfl:

laxfan14
05-01-2006, 12:48 PM
Troy Bonterre - Defense - Buffalo Bandits - Carpenter (doing his apprenticeship) in Owen Sound, Ontario

Plats
05-01-2006, 12:56 PM
As we know, most team sites, if you dig down to the player's page from the roster page, will usually list their off-floor occupation.

For example, the Toronto Rock's Aaron "Wild Man" Wilson is an electrician. That explains the extra zip in his shots! :o

Vin, maybe we can also look for who has the most "interesting" occupation - do we have any bounty hunters in the league? :D :eek:

CowtownLAXGirl
05-01-2006, 12:56 PM
Heres the Necks...

Curtis Palidwor - goalie - ???
Devan Wray - THE face-off man... Sales Rep
Kaleb Toth - fwd - sales rep
Ryan McNish - defense - helicopter mechanic for Canadian Forces
Jeff Moleski - defense - sawmill worker
Rob Kirkby - transition - house painter
Tracey Kelusky - forward - lacrosse coach
Kyle Goundrey - forward - steel fabricator
Andy Ogilvie - defense - cable technician
Jason Wulder - forward - municipal worker in Vancouver
Callum Crawford - forward - lacrosse camps
Craig Gelsvik - defense - ???
Grant Hamilton - defense - police officer
Andrew McBride - defense - student
Andrew Leyson - goal - courier truck driver
Lewis Ratcliff - forward - personal trainer
Taylor Wray - defense - student??
Kevin Dostie - forward - cable technician
Ryan Avery - goal - student
Jeremy Cheyne - transition - software engineer
Jesse Phillips - defense - electrical technician

toros_00
05-01-2006, 12:58 PM
My wife was wondering what Mark Steenhuis does when not playing for the Bandits.

Landscaping....

I know he was working with Billy & Mackie in the same company..but I think Steener wanted to start his own company...Not sure if he did or not.

NooK
05-01-2006, 01:02 PM
For example, the Toronto Rock's Aaron "Wild Man" Wilson is an electrician. That explains the extra zip in his shots!

lol that was bad.

Dog the bounty hunter in a lax helmet TOTALLY made up for it though :rotfl:

~Liz.052
05-01-2006, 01:38 PM
John Gallant: Mammoth/defense- kindergarten teacher
Jay Jalbert: Mammoth/transition-sports television production

Mr Boo
05-01-2006, 01:54 PM
Here are some Rock players that I know of offhand:
Blaine Manning - bond trader
Dan Ladouceur - police officer
Josh Sanderson - manager in daddy's store

At one point, there were three or four players on the Rock who were all firefighters in Vancouver, but I don't remember who they were. Dan Stroup was one.

~Liz.052
05-01-2006, 01:56 PM
Rich Catton: Mammoth/defense-sheriff in Vancouver

AmericanRockFan
05-01-2006, 01:58 PM
Here are some Rock players that I know of offhand:
Blaine Manning - bond trader
Dan Ladouceur - police officer
Josh Sanderson - manager in daddy's store

At one point, there were three or four players on the Rock who were all firefighters in Vancouver, but I don't remember who they were. Dan Stroup was one.

Wasn't Chris Gill one of them? Or was it Pat Coyle who was firefighter too?

Plats
05-01-2006, 02:08 PM
Coyle is a retired firefighter, living in BC, he now works as an installer for a company in Alberta (http://www.greatwestsafety.com) that supplies firefighting equipment...

AmericanRockFan
05-01-2006, 02:16 PM
Here are the Rock's occupations...

Doyle: Owner of Rudeboys Lacrosse; going to school at D'Youville College to become a teacher
Merrill: Account Manager at ArnoldiWatters Partnerships
Marshall: Construction
Evans: Lineman, Hydro One
Beisel: City of Brampton
P.Sanderson: Self-Employed
Kruger: City of Brampton
Shearer: Under Armour Canada representative
Dickie: Delivery, The Beer Store
Suddons: Investment Banker
MacDonald: Delivery
Campbell: Sales Rep, Synthane Taylor
Rubel: Graphic Designer
O'Brien: Cable Wiring and Installation
Gibson: Insurance Advisor
Driscoll: Technical Director for OLA
Watson: Machine Operator
Wetherup: Self-Employed

Meathead
05-01-2006, 02:24 PM
Geez, there's a scary thought! Tim O'Brien: "Caaaaaaable guuuuy!" :eek:

goddessoflax
05-01-2006, 02:50 PM
Here are the Rock's occupations...

Doyle: Owner of Rudeboys Lacrosse


Colin is no longer associated with Rudeboys and is now involved with UnderArmour. He also operates a number of lacrosse camps.

And the three guys who played for the Rock and worked as firefighters wer Dan Stroup, Chris Gill and (someone correct this if I am wrong) Russ Heard, who is now an assistant coach in Colorado.

losuch419
05-01-2006, 03:23 PM
Pat McCready is a cop in Ontario.
Kim Squire is an Iron worker.
Rich Kilgour works in a warehouse on the rez.

Mammoth5
05-01-2006, 03:35 PM
Actually Jamie Hanford is a Mortgage Broker. he did use to be a bond trader.



Jamie Hanford - Face off Man Colorado Mammoth - Bond Trader
Chris Levis -Goalie Colorado Mammoth - Personal trainer to the Stars :rotfl:

chuckster
05-01-2006, 03:52 PM
I think Steve Dietrich is a sales rep for a document shredding company. What's he got???? Shredding!! :D

Plats
05-01-2006, 04:21 PM
I think Steve Dietrich is a sales rep for a document shredding company. What's he got???? Shredding!! :D

Or what identity thieves and industrial spies will get - NOTHING!

REM
05-01-2006, 06:34 PM
Landscaping....

I know he was working with Billy & Mackie in the same company..but I think Steener wanted to start his own company...Not sure if he did or not.
That makes sense Toros. I think he fell asleep in a bucket of Miracle-Gro though.

toros_00
05-01-2006, 11:41 PM
That makes sense Toros. I think he fell asleep in a bucket of Miracle-Gro though.

:rotfl: that was a good one.

Mr. Wick
05-01-2006, 11:46 PM
Stroup and Gill are firefighter in Vancouver, Heard( purchaser for a large floor covering wholesaler) and someone mentioned Coyle were never firefighter.

other FF's Craig Gelsvik(cal) and Bruce Murrey(arz) in Vancouver, Brad Dairon(edm) Burnaby, Travis Gillespie(cal) Coquitlam


Hey Cowtownlaxgirl Curtis Palidwor - electrician

Jake Clawson
05-02-2006, 12:17 AM
I know Mark Miyashita and Brian Langtry are both school teachers here in the Denver area (although Miyashita now plays for Minnesota)...

JC

KalebToth4Ever
05-02-2006, 12:32 PM
I thought Tracey was a teacher. Like not lacrosse.

BARKS DAWG
05-02-2006, 12:38 PM
t.k. is a lacrosse teacher at a school

KalebToth4Ever
05-02-2006, 12:41 PM
I want a lacrosse teacher at my school then!! :D

AmericanRockFan
05-02-2006, 01:35 PM
Stroup and Gill are firefighter in Vancouver, Heard( purchaser for a large floor covering wholesaler) and someone mentioned Coyle were never firefighter.

other FF's Craig Gelsvik(cal) and Bruce Murrey(arz) in Vancouver, Brad Dairon(edm) Burnaby, Travis Gillespie(cal) Coquitlam


Hey Cowtownlaxgirl Curtis Palidwor - electrician

That was me :o . I probably associated Coyle with being a Vancouver firefighter because he was traded to Vancouver before they folded or something stupid like that.

BARKS DAWG
05-02-2006, 02:03 PM
pally is also a pro tequila taster for jose cuervo :rolleyes:

TheRockMan
05-02-2006, 02:46 PM
My wife was wondering what Mark Steenhuis does when not playing for the Bandits. I didn't know but began to wonder about that for all of the other players in the league.

Maybe we can make this a long thread and write down a player and his non-NLL job?

I will start:

Player: John Tavares
Team / Position: Buffalo Bandits / Forward, Assistant Captain
Non-NLL Occupation: Math teacher at Philip Pocock Catholic Secondary School in Mississauga Ontario, Canada.


Mark owns and works with a landscaping company in St Kitts, I know this because I talked to him Jan 13 after the rock loss to da Bandits

laxjunkie2
05-02-2006, 08:24 PM
isnt it troy "bonterre hunter??"" woulda love to put him with a mullet(blonde lol) but not that computer smart.. someone wanna try??

clutch this!
05-02-2006, 10:34 PM
isnt it troy "bonterre hunter??"" woulda love to put him with a mullet(blonde lol) but not that computer smart.. someone wanna try??
I believe we call him 'superhuman beast thing' or bontasaur/bontasaurus or troy-rex

ajaxmanutd
05-03-2006, 11:51 AM
Pat Maddalena is a Chiropractor. I used his job as an example in my Computer Class, They had to create a database Chicropactor's and Patients so I used the NLL Players as his patents. I got a chance to talk to my students about the NLL how players have to have outside jobs. I got some interesting looks from my students.

DaWingNut88
05-03-2006, 09:40 PM
Isn't Dallas Eliuk a cartoonist for a BC newspaper? :confused:

BTW - Jeff Spano was/is a mortgage broker, he refinanced a friend's home. He also owns a bar in Rosemont called "Brothers."

AmericanRockFan
05-03-2006, 10:04 PM
Isn't one of the coaches on the Rock a police officer and a massage therapist?
That must lead to some interesting pat downs :eek:

(cue the raunching, cheesy porn music) :rotfl:

goddessoflax
05-03-2006, 10:15 PM
Terry Rainer, who is an athletic trainer with the team, is both.

On the coaching staff....Terry Sanderson owns a sporting goods store, John Lovell is an accounting teacher.

rep
05-04-2006, 10:13 AM
t.k. is a lacrosse teacher at a school

TK might coach lacrosse at a school but he's NOT a teacher.

BARKS DAWG
05-04-2006, 10:21 AM
what i meant to say was that he is not an OFFICIAL teacher

Rush
05-06-2006, 11:54 PM
give a little bit of Rush representation

Jamey Bowen is a teacher at a local high school

Paddy Campbell is some marketing dude in Ontario

Jordan Sundher is a carpenter of some sort in BC

KalebToth4Ever
09-29-2006, 08:26 PM
T.K is a lacrosse teacher at................ MY SCHOOL!

Metalhead
10-02-2006, 12:05 PM
Not to degrade the players or anything, but there's a lot of lousy jobs being listed. I'm guessing once they retire from lacrosse they'll get something better.

KrazyKewl
10-02-2006, 12:58 PM
Unless I'm wrong, Carter Livingstone (SHAMROX) teaches at a school in Toronto.
Or at least he did when I went there, haha.

Haftalax
10-02-2006, 01:02 PM
2 Chris Schiller D 6-0 185 01/18/1977 Rochester, NY - Rep for Johnson and Johnson
5 Sandy Chapman D 5-9 180 01/23/1981 Toronto, Ontario - Cop?
7 Pat Dutton D 6-0 195 04/20/1977 Rochester, NY - Commercial Leasing Agent
10 Mike Hasen D 6-0 185 06/19/1972 Toronto, Ontario - I think Teacher
11 Regy Thorpe D 6-1 240 11/27/1971 Auburn, NY - Regional Financial Manager
12 Brian Croswell F 6-3 210 07/19/1982 Peterborough, Ontario
15 Shawn Evans F 5-9 180 04/28/1986 Peterborough, Ontario
17 Steve Toll D 6-0 195 06/16/1974 St. Catharines, Ontario
19 Scott Evans F 6-1 220 07/27/1981 Peterborough, Ontario
20 Steve Penny D 6-4 195 01/04/1977 Nanaimo, BC - Steel Markets
21 Bill Greer D 6-1 180 06/22/1981 Oshawa, Ontario
23 Stephen Hoar D 6-2 215 05/28/1982 Oshawa, Ontario
24 John Grant F 6-2 230 11/07/1974 Peterborough, Ontario - Teacher?
25 Scott Ditzell D 6-2 215 03/27/1983 Geneva, NY
32 Ken Millin F 5-11 200 01/29/1975 Brampton, Ontario - Teacher?
39 Pat O'Toole G 6-0 220 12/24/1971 Toronto, Ontario - Steel Markets
42 Pat Cougevan D 6-1 215 07/13/1971 Penn Yan, NY - Teacher/Lax Coach
43 Marshall Abrams D 6-0 200 07/16/1978 Syracuse, NY - Brine Lacrosse Rep
44 Mike Accursi F 5-11 175 02/25/1975 Pelham, Ontario
51 Shawn Williams F 5-11 195 06/20/1974 Scarborough, Ontario - Teacher
52 Grant Crawley G 6-1 278 07/28/1985 Brantford, Ontario

You've got to remember that these guys have to find jobs that are flexible to work around their practice and game schedules as well as any family life they have. Teaching and Police are very flexible and some of the other guys are at higher positions which they can dictate their own schedule around the season. Also, a lot of these guys use all of their accrued vacation time to play professional lacrosse.

Knabber da don't really follow the guys' lives off the floor much to be honest

Meathead
10-02-2006, 01:18 PM
Not to degrade the players or anything, but there's a lot of lousy jobs being listed. I'm guessing once they retire from lacrosse they'll get something better.
as with any cross-section of society, there's a myriad of jobs to be held out there. For most of the players it's finding a job that will allow them the necessary time off to play the game that factors into the jobs that they take. I guess you could say that they take the jobs that they have, not the jobs that they wished they had, because if you ask any one of them what job they'd realy like to have, I'm sure they'd tell you that playing lacrosse full time is the job that they want...and who knows? Maybe they actually liek those "lousy" jobs...

toros_00
10-02-2006, 01:41 PM
Not to degrade the players or anything, but there's a lot of lousy jobs being listed. I'm guessing once they retire from lacrosse they'll get something better.

are you kidding???

i cant tell if theres sarcasm.

thrillis
10-02-2006, 01:54 PM
are you kidding???

i cant tell if theres sarcasm.


haha, really, whats this guy expecting? this isnt the nhl or nfl where a years salary can buy the player a ceo/executive position with a fortune 500 company :rotfl:

Meathead
10-02-2006, 02:13 PM
Thought the Gaits are close, you're right, thrillis...

Mr. Big
10-02-2006, 02:15 PM
I'd love to see these guys get more buck for their bang, but until TV contracts get bigger, I don't see it happening. Ticket prices are the best hope for getting salaries increased any time soon. We don't want that! I find it hard to believe that the NLL can't get a good TV contract with ESPN, Versus, or even TBS or Turner South! The game has a lot to offer fans. For newbies, better explainations and game descriptions are necessary to lower the learning curve.

I wish these guys could make $75,000.00 to $150,000.00 at least in salary. Maybe one day.

thrillis
10-02-2006, 02:30 PM
the only way nowadays they make that much is through massive sponsorship deals, playing year round, and being in the league for 10 years and hailed as the best (ie. the gaits). the gaits also pull alot of money in through their equipment lines



hell, id be happy seeing even 50k a year for the guys in the league, offers enough to live off comfortably, and room for a p/t job that can give them anything more they want

Goose4lax
10-02-2006, 09:30 PM
Duane Jacobs is a lawyer. Plenty more are firefighers and cops, a few are teachers. Are those high profile enough??

Goose

CW7
10-02-2006, 11:13 PM
Not to degrade the players or anything, but there's a lot of lousy jobs being listed. I'm guessing once they retire from lacrosse they'll get something better.

Metalhead, by making the statement you did about some of their lousy jobs you did degrade what different players do for a living. I usually enjoy reading your posts, but wow did you step over the line on this one. What gives you the right to judge what makes or does not make a lousy job?

You sound like the broken record of many folks I know who think attending college or university is the what makes you bright and provides you with a great job, whatever that might be. I guess you need to be a lawyer, doctor, teacher or some profession for you to think it is a great job.

Many of the players have a variety of different occupations and likely they enjoy what they do. With your comments it sounds like you don't enjoy your job. Don't judge what you don't know about the players and their additonal jobs besides lacrosse. There are some very wealthy electricians out there playing lacrosse.

jstraw80
10-03-2006, 11:43 AM
"Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too. "

Metalhead
10-03-2006, 12:06 PM
I must apologize for my statement. I did say that to see what kind of response it would get. Why? I don't know, I do like to stir the pot and watch people's reactions. My statement was one that I do not believe, I don't have a great job myself so I'm not one to talk. Like I said, I just wanted to see the reaction I'd get. That is no excuss and I truly am sorry.

JessiO
10-03-2006, 12:50 PM
Gavin Prout-C on the Mammoth is in Insurance in Toronto

CoCo
10-03-2006, 01:14 PM
Metalhead sounds like Albert Haynesworth! :rotfl:

erak
10-03-2006, 01:30 PM
The apology was worse than what he said! I just was willing to write it off as a silly comment- Metalhead, you said that intentionally?!

;)

Metalhead
10-03-2006, 01:40 PM
I am an odd one. :o

Avalanche8686
10-03-2006, 05:53 PM
Not to degrade the players or anything, but there's a lot of lousy jobs being listed. I'm guessing once they retire from lacrosse they'll get something better.
Can you do me a favor and do some research into the other sports leagues like the NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB and let me know how many doctors, executives, etc you find.

RockStar#666
10-03-2006, 05:56 PM
..........NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB and let me know how many doctors, executives, etc you find.
Uhhh, but, er, you see.

Ahh, never mind.

Sinistra
10-03-2006, 06:27 PM
Way back when Mike Accursi was a Bandit, he told me that he teaches Chemistry and Biology somewhere in St. Catherines.

toros_00
10-03-2006, 07:28 PM
Way back when Mike Accursi was a Bandit, he told me that he teaches Chemistry and Biology somewhere in St. Catherines.

AND woodworking!

dtj
10-05-2006, 04:40 AM
When you have young guys, of which many don't have college degrees, working in basically a migrant labor situation in many cases, it is bound to be hard for them to get and hold high paying professional jobs. Definitely not impossible, but certainly concerted effort has to be made in that direction for it to happen. Throw in P-1 visa issues and flexibility requirements and you don't have a recipe for success. They also probably don't have the awesome connections that a field player from an Ivy League school might have.

Stoned_Lax
10-05-2006, 04:02 PM
Heres the Necks...

Curtis Palidwor - goalie - ???
Devan Wray - THE face-off man... Sales Rep
Kaleb Toth - fwd - sales rep
Ryan McNish - defense - helicopter mechanic for Canadian Forces
Jeff Moleski - defense - sawmill worker
Rob Kirkby - transition - house painter
Tracey Kelusky - forward - lacrosse coach
Kyle Goundrey - forward - steel fabricator
Andy Ogilvie - defense - cable technician
Jason Wulder - forward - municipal worker in Vancouver
Callum Crawford - forward - lacrosse camps
Craig Gelsvik - defense - ???
Grant Hamilton - defense - police officer
Andrew McBride - defense - student
Andrew Leyson - goal - courier truck driver
Lewis Ratcliff - forward - personal trainer
Taylor Wray - defense - student??
Kevin Dostie - forward - cable technician
Ryan Avery - goal - student
Jeremy Cheyne - transition - software engineer
Jesse Phillips - defense - electrical technician


Gelsvik used to be at Firefighter in BC and I believe he still is.