Discussion in 'Georgia Swarm Forum' started by mtbf, Jan 9, 2016.
Only by announced number. In house looked much less (2-3K).
Yea I said to drew I felt 2500
For a 2 PM Sunday game in the Deep South with the Swarm game being played during parts of 2 NFL Playoffs games, the only reason that the players showed up is that they're Canadian. I would have been happy if they had more than 200 in walk-up expecting the vast bulk of whoever did attend being STHers.
Unfortunate that Georgia lost so convincingly against New England. However, what is more interesting is New England. Colorado may be 3-0, but New England is 2-1 with 1 close loss at home and 2 convincing wins on the road. They have the largest goal differential. Granted, New England hasn't played Buffalo, Rochester, or Saskatchewan yet, but they seem improved and a team to watch.
Also known as everything we were hoping for in Philly but never happened.
About 4,000 this week. Sunday doesn't help, nor the fact that they've seen some poor games. Getting blown out by the Bandits can't help them getting people wanting to come back.
and thats after they already got dusted by NE at home in their last home game as well
4000 in GA this weekend, while not good, is better than I was expecting which was in the 3000s.
3000s in NE this weekend is definitely better than what I was expecting because of the Sunday afternoon game with bitter cold. Even I was going to go to the game, but said "Eff that!" given how cold it was so I just hunkered down in my room.
who cares the team will fold after the season. as per the Orlando titans.
After 4 home games and the start of a 5-game home stretch... they're down 2k/game over last year. Epic fail.
Sure doesn't look like anything got better after leaving Minny...
getting dusted at home on sunday afternoons and friday nights is hard to build a new fan base
when will this league learn
LOOK AT THE RUSH they are crushing it at the gate on saturday nights in their new home
If the lease was as bad as they claimed, they might be losing LESS money in Georgia than if they stayed in Minny. Isn't that progress??
My guess is that they have a much sweeter lease deal in Georgia than Minnesota, and even with less fans in the building, their game day expenses are WAY down, much like the Stealth in Vancouver as opposed to Everett. As for New England, whatever money they lose on the team is probably made up for and more by the people spending money at the casino. It's not good to have 3 out of 9 teams drawing less than 5,000 a game, but if the owners of the Stealth, Black Wolves and Swarm are not feeling as much of a financial crunch, then I guess it is somewhat of a "win" for the league.
My understanding from a fairly reliable inside source is that it costs the Toronto Rock about 100,000 bucks a game for game day expenses just so the team can hit the floor to play their games. At 8 to 9 thousand people a game, there is a good chunk of your ticket dollars chewed up right there alone.
1-3 at home doesn't help. Now they still have 2 Friday and a Sunday game left at home as well. Not ideal.
Friday nights were the best, that whole blowing off work vibe was great. sunday afternoon is for church potluck dinners, not nll excitement.
I don't see this lasting very long. As great as Sask has been this season, Georgia has been just as disappointing. I pretty much expected this. They need to really revamp advertising this offseason.
3,348 last night
Weren't the Swarm averaging almost 9000 fans per home game in Minnesota the last few years? 3348 in GA is a joke. The lease deal in Georgia must really be a sweet one, because I can't see any team sticking around there unless expenses are really dirt cheap. Anyone want to take bets as to how soon the Swarm relocate again?
I wonder what the break-even number is in Georgia. It's a shame they left Minnesota because they did have good fan support. If you draw 8,000, you should be able to survive. But, obviously it all depends on expenses. If it continues like this I could see them giving it one more year in Georgia before searching for a better market.
Well well well... Look at this. Can't say I'm surprised. But oh, how satisfying all this was to read. People had to expect this, right? I mean let's do a quick rundown of every red flag that there was heading into this disaster.
1. The Arlottas are still in charge
2. They went into a market that the MLL had already tapped and had success in. Obviously not likely to translate
3. They went to a market that was named America's worst sports city mere weeks before they announced the move (Brilliant!)
4. They went to a market where an NHL team failed (And these are the clowns who advertised "Hockey with Balls" in MN)
5. They went to a market where mere weeks before the announcement, they couldn't even fill up an NBA playoff game and the Hawks were the #1 seed.
Noticing a pattern? I mean come on.. Not to mention, they aren't even in the city center, but in Gwinnett county. Ouch. Anyone with any sports knowledge knew this thing was going to fail from the get go.
As for this lease thing, and maybe Corporal could correct me if he had heard something I didn't, but I, nor anyone I knew, had heard anything about such an issue until the Swarm put it out there as their cop out to get out of town. You would think that is something/a situation you would hear about at least a year in advance, and something to keep your eyes on. Especially someone who followed that stuff as close as Corporal. I predicted them leaving after the 2015 season, back in 2013. It had been going downhill for a while, and was getting rapidly worse. All I needed was to the turn some of the fan base, and then it was bound to end.
Even if the lease down there is dirt cheap, you think the embarrassment of averaging somewhere between 2K and 3K a game would be enough for them to call it quits. I mean, there's HS sports teams that average more than that. I do have to give the Atlanta area credit, though. I remember that the Swarm were going hard for sponsors and all down there early on. I'm sure they're getting complacent now, though. I even remember a radio interview where Baby A and Schimke were blowing smoke up this radio host's a$$. Baby A even said at one point that they score "20-30 goals a game in lacrosse". Yeah, okay guy. Glad the residents down there didn't fall for it.
They're toast. They'll probably stay another year down there, because the Arlottas are foolish and don't realize they are clueless. As for relocation, hopefully the Arlottas will by then realize they are not meant for sports ownership/business and either sell (or give away) the team, or just fold it completely.
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