Attendance....

Discussion in 'NLL News and Rumors' started by Vin, Feb 26, 2017.

  1. smurf666

    smurf666 Guest

    even if NE fills the place and has to chase away people, there is no way they can get a bigger net revenue/profit at any other location....simply cannot happen

    they are staying put for as long as it takes the owners to figure out something more lucrative to run on Sunday afternoons.
     
  2. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    On top of what swami24 said, right now NE is boosting their numbers with the B1G1 season ticket. That is a HUGE incentive and discount. As they know in the casino business, a goal is to move people up to spend more. They're paying something but will they pay more if they like what they see and have fun? That's a tricky proposition but if done right, you could keep 5-7k customers and get them to pay more for the same thing.
     
  3. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    Exactly.
     
  4. Andrew GEA

    Andrew GEA Guest

    Ya more now, I'm just say why put a cap on it.
     
  5. Wingsfan23

    Wingsfan23 Member

    I guess this went unread by most
     
  6. Wingsfan23

    Wingsfan23 Member

    The Sunday model has worked this year and I don't see it changing , the venue is usually booked Saturday nights for concerts that go for a hefty price
     
  7. Wingsfan23

    Wingsfan23 Member

    They have sold out one game out of 29 so far including playoffs one half of their upper level is useless because of the field configuration and the inability to see actually see one of the goal cages. I don't see them capping out unless they go dynasty mode and win 3 in a row
     
  8. swami24

    swami24 Well-Known Member

    The ends are terrible seats, the rest are quite good. Think of Rochester with that huge section over one end, they can't be good either.
     
  9. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    If you're talking about the Hawks Nest, I actually don't mind it up there periodically.
     
  10. swami24

    swami24 Well-Known Member

    It is just an odd stadium, been there only once so I guess I really should not have judged, since I didn't sit there. Plus if a section gets an identity it make sense, like 114 sucks
     
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  11. Vin

    Vin Well-Known Member

    I read it.
    I agreed with it.
    I said basically the same thing before reading it.
     
  12. Vin

    Vin Well-Known Member

    Even with BOGO STH, yes, they lose the potential revenue of the free seat, but that will get made-up for right away in concessions (and pre-game/post-game spending) and gambling.
    What's good about BOGO is that it makes it much easier for a young couple without much income to get a season of date nights.... and both of them will eat at concessions or dine on-site.
     
  13. dougm

    dougm Well-Known Member

    that is the advantage of the arena owning team. revenue is revenue no matter the source. I paid for every nll game I went - philly, Baltimore, long island. but the seat was often the least coming out of my wallet. parking, ticketing fees, food, beer and concessions easily outpaced by seat cost by at least 150%. if the nll owner is not the arena owner, then he has to sell every seat. if he owns both, the total revenue counts and if comped seats still brings in $35-50 in ancillary income, no problem. as long as total revenue exceeds total cost, who cares as long as it is profit.
     
  14. wacklax

    wacklax Member

    I find that when I get cheap/free tickets to events my wallet tends to open up more for the other stuff like food drink etc.
     
  15. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    That's exactly why a team like New England is wise to give away tickets or do these BOGO deals, because the money people don't spend on tickets they'll spend on concessions. Maybe it won't offset the money they don't make on tickets, but it's sure more money than they'd make if the person didn't buy a ticket and also didn't buy concessions on top of it.
     
  16. Vin

    Vin Well-Known Member

    Something that people who have not gone to a Black Wolves game should know. Yes, the arena is in a casino, but so is a mall complete with restaurants, food court, shops... The Mohegan people get a cut of every single dollar spent in that place. So, when they lure someone to watch a Black Wolves game even if it is with a free STH in a BOGO, that free attendee is spending money in that mall if not the casino. That does two things:
    1. It puts money in Mohegan's pockets.
    2. It keeps the businesses in that mall profitable and that is imperative because that also helps keep rental costs high so the rental income doesn't suffer.

    For instance, after a game last year, I spent about $25-$30 or so on Frank Pepe's pizza. (I never had New Haven Style pizza and wanted to try it.) Frank Pepe's gets my money and some of that then goes to the Mohegans. But, Frank Pepe's is happy because they realize they are in an excellent location (and they are if you've seen the wait line). Mohegan knows that and can charge Frank Pepe's a decent rent.
     
  17. swami24

    swami24 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, to get to the arena from parking, you have to walk and outer path if not 21, or walk through the casino, and an atrium of the mall and restaurants . The arena entrance seems like an add on.
     
  18. BlackWolves99

    BlackWolves99 Member

    The arena, mall, and the casino of the sky portion were part of the 2001 expansion of Mohegan Sun. Originally Mohegan Sun only consisted of the Casino of the Earth which housed the Wolf Den and of course they needed a larger venue for the musical acts that pull a ton more people. And of course having the arena in the center between the 3 parking garages is to get you to stop and play, shop, and dine while you are coming and going.

    Of course they don't charge you for parking, but thats more money they figure they'll get inside anyway somehow.
     
  19. Vin

    Vin Well-Known Member

    That's one thing I absolutely love about the place: free and easy parking. Sure, I might have to walk a bit coming from the Winter Entrance/Garage, but the ease of finding parking and not having to pay is worth it. Compare that to going to Hartford's XL Center and I will gladly take the extra 40-45 minutes to drive to Mohegan Sun.
     
  20. swami24

    swami24 Well-Known Member

    I absolutely love not having to pay for parking!! And really walking through the place to get to the arena is enjoyable because the place is really cool, if not beautiful.
     

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