Discussion in 'Philadelphia Wings Forum' started by WingsNut423566, Feb 6, 2019.
Ryan Wagner and 2021 1st round pick from Buffalo.
WHAT THE F???? Seriously, did this just happen??
Buffalo had 2 1st rounders in 2021 so I wonder which one it is.
This rocks!!! Wagner is a D guy that should get plenty of playing time here with our awful D.
And moved literal dead weight for a first round pick.
Awesome trade. Wagner is just another guy, and we have two firsts that year.
Works out well for both sides. The Wings need a veteran D guy, and Cloutier is more likely to eat the ball than put it in the net.
With Byrne out, the left side needs some help, and he’s only played 7 games so I’ll take the upside. Wagner was fine, will def help Philly but there wasn’t really room, he’s even been a healthy scratch.
D is the not the problem. The problem is the goaltending.
The irony is that the Wings could have taken Wagner for nothing in the expansion draft and probably given up a 4th rounder to land Diruscio. They signed Buchan as a free agent.
They must have really noticed what they saw in Cloutier. Was he a poor listener, uncoachable?
I mean Cloutier was a black hole, so this could just be a case of addition by subtraction. A 1st and a defender is a decent haul IMO.
Awful trade! You don’t give up on a guy 7 games into his rookie season! There is a reason he was touted as a top pick in the draft. He has potential!
Unfortunately it appears he came in overweight and not ready to go but still too early to dump him this early is ridiculous!
The only reason you make a trade like this is if he is a total douche in the locker room!
Time to think about firing our GM as he could have made several of these moves without losing future draft picks!
If he had done his homework properly we are not throwing good picks away like this!
Dead wrong! Our defense has been getting killed by pick and rolls and give and go all season! Some of the goals you can blame the goalie for but they have had more rubber in their faces than a hooker in Kensington!
As bad as the defense is I still don’t like the trade as the upside goes to buffalo.
If it wasn’t for the pipes and goalies we have lost each game by 5 or more!
Buchan has been marginal but I can’t pin close losses solely on him
The D let down completely both games vs Toronto
Remember luke wiles? He was a fat slug too and never got back in the league, this is cloutiers wake up call
Too bad. If he wakes up Buffalo just got a lot better.
When I told Mrs Swami, her question was " is that the fat guy?". I still wonder that it was too early for a building team? There had to be some big red flag.
I wish him success but the wings are not as bad as 1-6 represents them in the standings
His play drastically changed the minute Crowley put his wings jersey back in
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Seems awfully fast to give up on a 2nd overall pick lefty despite his recent struggles, and considering it's the worst talent analysis individual in NLL history moving him out, chances are this bites the Wings in the ass.
I am with Gravedigger......seems too early to give up, especially since this was the consensus no. 2 overall pick, not just Day's.
Wondering if Cloutier bluntly explained to the coach what exactly is causing his disappointing performance, and had to be moved due to "irreconcilable differences"
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