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Game 12: New England Black Wolves (5-6) vs. Rochester Knighthawks (4-7) - March 17th @ 7:30 PM EST

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  1. BlackWolves99

    BlackWolves99 Member

    Game#12 New England Black Wolves (5-6) vs. Rochester Knighthawks (4-7)
    Friday March 17th, 2017 7:30 PM EST
    Mohegan Sun Arena - Mohegan Reservation in Uncasville, Connecticut, USA


    Places to Watch with Others:
    At the Game at Mohegan Sun Arena!


    Places to Watch Online:
    NLLTV.com (US, Canada, & International)

    Season Series Info:
    Saturday Jan 7 - Away @ Rochester = Loss 8-15
    Friday Feb 3 - Home vs. Rochester = Won 10-9 OT
    Friday Mar 17 - Home vs. Rochester = TBD
    Saturday April 22 - Away @ Rochester = TBD

    Series Tied 1-1 (Knighthawks Currently Own Tiebreaker by 6 Goals)

    Key Info going into Game 12:
    Current Record: 5-6
    2016 Record: 10-8
    Playoffs: Lost in Eastern Division Finals to Buffalo
    2016 Plus/Minus: +17
    2017 Plus/Minus: -10
    Last Champion's Cup Title: 2001, as Philadelphia Wings

    Top Two Players From Last Year:
    Shawn Evans 50g, 68a
    Kevin Crowley 33g, 57a
    Evan Kirk (2016 NLL Goalie Of The Year)

    Top Players This Season:
    Shawn Evans 22g, 40a
    Kevin Crowley 28g, 27a
    Kevin Buchanan 12g, 28a
    Kyle Buchanan 16g, 22a

    GM: Rich Lisk (2016 NLL GM of the Year Runner-Up)
    Coach: Glenn Clark (2016 NLL Head Coach of the Year - The Les Bartley Award Winner)
    Assistant Coaches: Tracey Kelusky (2016 NLL Hall Of Famer), Jim Veltman
    Captains: Shawn Evans (C), Brett Manney (A), and Kyle Buchanan (A)

    Key losses: F Jordan Hall, D Andrew Suitor, F Pat Saunders
    Key additions: F Reilly O’Connor, D Scott Self, F Seth Oakes, D Chad Culp, D Jay Thorimbert.

    Draft Additions: Selected Seth Oakes (Albany) with first-round pick, Selected Doug Jamieson (Onondaga) with second-round pick, and Selected Joel Coyle (Conestoga) with a third-round pick. Seth and Doug have made the Active Roster for the Season.

    IlIndoor Preview by Stephen Stamp:
    Given what a strong season the Black Wolves had from start to (almost) finish in 2016, it's easy to forget how much of a surprise it was that they were so good. With Glenn Clark and Jim Veltman joining Tracey Kelusky on the bench, and with Shawn Evans, Kevin Crowley and Derek Suddons added to the roster, the pieces were in place for an improvement, but nobody expected New England to go from 4-14 to 10-8 and a berth in Eastern Conference finals in one season.

    That's just what they did, though. Now they have to guard against the backsliding that often occurs the season after a pro sports team makes big gains. They appear to be prepared to continue improving rather than losing momentum. Faceoff man Jay Thorimbert and epic mucker Chad Culp are just the kind of additions that help give a team the depth to go further in the playoffs. Scott Self brings more veteran presence and leadership and Matt Spanger a dose of athleticism and energy to the back end. Sheldon Burns had a breakout season in transition last year and Zac Reid is poised to garner more notice for his tough and reliable defence.

    With righty Seth Oakes coming in the first round of this year's draft and lefty Reilly O'Connor (Calgary's first-rounder last year) coming in a trade, the offence should have the depth to overcome injuries or slumps by other forwards. If Evan Kirk can build on, or at least maintain, the play from his goalie of the year season, there don't appear to be many holes in the Black Wolves lineup. The defending conference champion Bandits still constitute a major hurdle to overcome, but New England has to feel confident that it's better prepared to compete with Buffalo for a shot to reach the Champion’s Cup.

    # - POS - PLAYER
    2 - T - Hotaling, Ryan
    7 - D - Suddons, Derek
    9 - F - O'Connor, Reilly
    12 - F - Oakes, Seth
    13 - D - Manney, Brett
    15 - F - Evans, Shawn
    17 - D - Reid, Zac
    18 - D - Searle, Derek
    19 - F - Clup, Chad
    21 - F - Crowley, Kevin
    26 - F - Bucktooth, Brett
    27 - F - Buchanan, Kevin
    30 - G - Jamieson, Doug
    35 - G - Kirk, Evan
    39 - D - Ball, Dan
    71 - D - Burns, Sheldon
    75 - T - Thorimbert, Jay
    91 - F - Buchanan, Kyle
    96 - D - OBrien, Bill
    99 - F - Veltman, Daryl

    Practice Squad: Joel Coyle, Rance Vigneux, Matt Spanger, and Connor Brown
    Retired: Scott Self

    Current Record: 4-7
    2016 Record: 12-6
    Playoffs: Missed Playoffs (4th in East Division)
    2016 Plus/Minus: -15
    2017 Plus/Minus: -26
    Last Champion's Cup Title: 2014

    Top Two Players From Last Year
    Cody Jamieson 35g, 64a
    Dan Dawson 40g, 55a

    Top Players This Season
    Joe Resetarits 14g, 23a
    Kyle Jackson 14g, 22a
    Dan Dawson 8g, 25a

    GM: Curt Styres
    Coach: Mike Hasen
    Captain: Sid Smith

    Key losses: F Joe Walters, D Mike Manley, F Craig Point, D Jon Sullivan, D Scott Self, D Brad Self, D Mike Kirk, F Stephen Keogh
    Key additions: T Andrew Suitor, F Jarrett Davis, F Kevin Ross
    IlIndoor Preview per Stephen Stamp:
    The Knighthawks offensive lefties to start the season are rookie first-round draft pick Kyle Jackson and 27-year-old rookie Wayne VanEvery. They may bring Tyler Ferreira, signed at the deadline after being cut by Buffalo and listed as a transition player, forward to help. If they add his 4 games and 6 career points, that will give them 4 games and 6 career points from their lefty forwards in the season opener. Owner/GM Curt Styres and head coach Mike Hasen have earned the benefit of the doubt with their three Champions Cup titles in the last five years, but it's just hard to see how things can go smoothly early in the year for this team. Experience is important.

    It's not just the left side of the O, either. The defence is largely retooled and includes guys like Joel Matthews, who has mostly played offence; Luc Magnan, who joined the team at the deadline after being cut by Toronto; and Jarrett Davis, who hasn't been with Rochester for a couple of years and while versatile is more of an offensive guy. Any one of those three probably wouldn't be a problem, and all three of them may work out well. It just seems logical that it will take a while for the defence to come together. That puts a lot of pressure on the team to find ways to win games early in the season, because wins are always tough to come by in the NLL these days and it's hard to make up ground later if you fall too far behind early.

    Having said all that, the Knighthawks still have Hasen and his solid coaching staff. They still have Dan Dawson up front. They still have strong veterans in the back end like Sid Smith, Ian Llord, Scott Campbell and Paul Dawson. Rookies like Jackson and Josh Currier—whose quick feet and slick hands are ideally suited to the pro game—have lots of potential. Graeme Hossack may be the best defender in the league before long and is already in the conversation among the top handful as he enters his second year. So the season is far from a write-off for Rochester. The Hawks just don't have a wide margin for error.
    # - POS - PLAYER
    2 - D - Dawson, Paul
    4 - D - Hossack, Graeme
    6 - F - Dawson, Dan
    10 - D - Gillies, Brad
    11 - D - Rae, John
    15 - F - Resetarits, Joe
    16 - D - Evans, Dylan
    20 - D - Suitor, Andrew
    23 - F - Vitarelli, Cory
    27 - F - Currier, Josh
    29 - D - Llord, Ian
    37 - D - Campbell, Scott
    42 - T - Davis, Jarrett
    45 - D - Magnan, Luc
    47 - F - Jackson, Kyle
    48 - G - Vinc, Matt
    51 - D - Bomberry, Adam
    55 - G - Goodleaf, Angus
    61 - F - Lomas, Dan
    79 - D - Smith, Sid
    91 - D - Matthews, Joel

    Practice Squad: Luc Magnan, Quinn Powless, Wayne Van Every, Torrey Van Every, and Luke Laszkiewicz
    Injured Reserve: Cody Jamieson
  2. BlackWolves99

    BlackWolves99 Member

  3. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    This game will probably be under 4K it's a Friday on st Patrick's day 5 days after their last home game, give Rochester hell!
  4. liveone

    liveone Member

    That's a tough call... Lowest attendance so far this year was a Friday with 4,500.

    It seems like they have been marketing this game and the St. Paddy's promo pretty hard this week and they sold out of tickets to the Beer Garden today. I know a number of co-workers are going to their first game just because of it and I ran into several families with season tickets last night that bought the package just to bring friends.

    I'm thinking 4K is low.... maybe not 5K, but not less than 4.
  5. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    Looking thin I stick with my sub 4K stance

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  6. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    upon further review based on whats available basing it off of 7,074 which they called a sellout for the opener
    they have sold/distributed 3,960 tickets for tonight so i wonder what kind of walkup they get i dont ever see the box office when im there
  7. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    Final assessment they should be around 4300 tobight
  8. BlackWolves99

    BlackWolves99 Member

    So notes from the game:

    Up 5-4 at half!
    Game music has been way off for the crowd
    Crowd: 4500ish
    Shawn Evans has been taking hits and scoring goals
    Huge fight just prior to half, Dan Dawson started again Bill O'Brien. Then another fight. Penalties not announced as of yet.
  9. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    The fact they threw them out of the game in that case Is which direction this league is going and don't even ******* bother with expansion with that pussy ****
    k-hawksfan33 likes this.
  10. BlackWolves99

    BlackWolves99 Member

    So I got the scoop concerning the music from last night, kinda sad actually, but they had to call in an emergency backup DJ to spin tunes who has never done it for lacrosse before. I personally would of been ok without the music at times but the second half, at least the tunes were better.

    As for the game, ugly game but we came away with the Win. There were a lot of things that could of been done better and with both teams playing down a few in the second half, that kept this one a bit ugly with the teams making changes mid-game that I'm assuming screwed up both teams game plans. I do have to say Rochester is keeping games tight and their defense is looking pretty damn good except for the few too many hicups. Also they are going to have quite a road to climb after this one especially with the injury to Josh Currier at the end of the game (Leg injury and in my opinion might be out for the rest of the season at the very least).

    As for it being St. Patrick's Day, the jerseys they wore were pretty sick and I also was lucky to have been able to partake in the after game festivities, aka Black Wolves CT Beer Garden, which I do have to say seemed to be a big hit (Sold Out their 200 tickets for the Event). It took place out in the shops concourse of the Casino just outside the arena. After awhile the players joined in too and I got to say it turned out to be a very nice time and one of the better after game events they have put on. Between Great Beer and Great Conversation, you really couldn't beat it for a good St. Patrick's Day event!
  11. liveone

    liveone Member

    10 minutes in and I thought the music was going to be a bigger **** show then the Star Wars night. The starting and stopping was brutal.... we were wondering if she even knew how to run the equipment. She did get much better in the 2nd quarter but the music selection was still pretty bad. Did you hear what happened to the regular guy? I just assumed that being St Patrick's Day he had a much better paying gig elsewhere.

    Beer garden was great - I'd love to see more promos like that in the future.

    All in all, the people I brought loved it and will be coming to more games and possibly getting season tix next year, so that's another win.
  12. Vin

    Vin Well-Known Member

    Wish I had gone, but starting my work day at 4 AM (including Saturdays and Sundays) is messing me up. By 7 PM, I am a borderline waste product.
  13. k-hawksfan33

    k-hawksfan33 Well-Known Member

    Heartbreaking loss for the Hawks but I honestly can't be that mad. They're simply a less talented team who played with a lot of heart so no complaints there. A few random notes

    -You know the music is bad when the announcers make fun of it
    - Agree with Hollywood, ejecting the fighters was stupid and I've seen plenty of fights after the whistle where no one got ejected
    - Watching O'Brien get pummeled by DDD was the highlight of my weekend (And thats saying a lot as its St Paddys Weekend)
    - On a similar redundant note -- Bill O'Brien is a pussy bitch
    - I wonder if Shawn Evans would be doing this good if he was still on he Hawks. Always liked him despite the flopping and complaining.
    - If DDD and O'Brien get an additional game suspension I'll riot. Also isn't this O'Brien's second game misconduct? He might be getting a completely undeserved 4 game suspension.
    - Currier and Jackson are obviously the future of the Hawks, lets hope that injury doesn't affect anything but this god forsaken season.
    - Good to see NE getting better crowds this year. Honestly doesn't take a lot of people to make that arena look full so I think you could probably air a Blackwolves game on Twitter without any embarrassment. Can't say the same for Georgia when they end up hosting empty playoff games for the whole world to see
  14. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    It was bills first game misconduct of season
    I went back to look at the stat sheet from the game he got suspended from and the hit wasn't even penalized I see he was retroactively given a match penalty under rule 63.3 but no indication if that carries with it an accrued game misconduct
  15. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    I asked him, he only has the 1 game misconduct on season
  16. BlackWolves99

    BlackWolves99 Member

    Car Accident. I was told from the Black Wolves Sales and Entertainment Staff that he was ok however but of course that sidelined him for the night. The replacement DJ I guess normally does the music for the WNBA CT Sun and well in that case I can understand how the first half selection of music was off especially since that person never went to a lacrosse game till last night supposedly.
  17. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    Manney left the game in the first half with a lower body injury but returned to the tunnel near the dance team with obrien and searle in his suit and was dancing around and enjoying the game so whatever he hurt prolly isn't terribly serious
  18. BlackWolves99

    BlackWolves99 Member

    I was talking with him after the game a little, I guess he pulled his hamstring pretty good when he hit the goalie in the first half. He said he would probably be out a couple of weeks.
  19. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    I'm re-watching the game I did not even notice the music on Friday but it is kind of funny how bad it was the first half
  20. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    The DJ caught on at the end of the half when they played keep em separated

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