Knighthawks to Halifax

Discussion in 'Rochester Knighthawks Forum' started by GoKHawksGo, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    I believe that is the case. KeyBank Center hasn't had a major renovation yet but just some minor things done in the concourses. PSE is currently studying what upgrades could be done and the idea of a brand new arena being built has been rumored to be on the table.

    I think the last round of New Era Field upgrades was agreed to before the Pegulas bought the Bills.
  2. UncleBenny

    UncleBenny Member

    ...why? They don't own First Niagara Center in Buffalo either.
  3. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    A brand new arena in Buffalo?? That'd be just plain silly in my opinion. I know the KeyBank Center is 22 years old, but that place has several decades of use left. Plus the location is fantastic, building a new arena in Buffalo now would just be a ridiculous decision.
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  4. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    The issue is whether the cost of renovations and upgrade work would not be that far from building new. Again, it was just a rumor that was out there and PSE is going to take a long time to evaluate what the options are. As with everything, it will come down to money.
  5. RockStar

    RockStar Well-Known Member

    They just built a multimillion dollar entertainment complex right across the street from the rink, and, there is no better location in central Buffalo......the rink will stay put, will maybe just get enhanced/remodelled/modestly expanded.
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  6. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    Exactly. I gotta presume this is much more likely. I can't really fault them for seeing how much a whole near arena would cost for reference to compare against how much renovations would cost, but in terms of location I don't think you can beat the current spot unless you're going to put the new arena literally on the other side of Cobblestone/Helium.
  7. MILLwasbetter

    MILLwasbetter Well-Known Member

    I don't think the Sabres would relocate the arena due to the fact that they just built an entire new village in the city, but I can see them doing some MSG scale renovations. If you didn't see the documentary on the MSG renovations you should check it out, it's incredible what they did. That is what I would expect to be done.

    In a perfect world, I would want a new exterior for the arena as KBC is and has been one of the UGLIEST arenas I have ever seen.

    Something of note, I didn't realize that the Sabres only played at the Aud for about the same time frame that they've played in the arena. It doesn't feel that old, but its old. They also added over 1,000 seats since the original design, which may not seem like much but it doesn't help the crowdedness.

    Another something of note, take it for what you want, I know how people view inside news like this on message boards, friend of mine works for a local contractor, they have been working on New Era Field since the spring. Apparently it is very hush hush and they aren't even allowed to bring phones on the site, but there is concrete from the 300 level falling down all over the concourses of the stadium. You will not hear about this anywhere on the news as the Bills don't want it getting out. Buddy says it's really bad. If youre there this season, keep your eyes peeled for new concrete work and paint in the concourses and around the stadium.
  8. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    The Pegulas are studying the idea of a new arena as part of their evaluations.

    The PSE president and Sabres co-owner/president said replacing the facility is no less a consideration than a major renovation.

    "I think everything's on the table," Pegula said. "I think they did a great job when they built that place (in 1996) and our staff has been really good about maintaining and putting in a lot of cap-ex (capital expenditure) things over the years, but I wouldn't take anything off the table. We really want to take a really, really big, global look at all that."
  9. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    Haven't seen the documentary, but I can tell you that I've experienced the bridge seats at MSG and loved them.... once I got over my mini heights induced panic attack. But they are definitely the most unique seats you'll find at any arena that I'm aware of and if you have a chance to at least walk on the bridge I say go for it.

    About the KBC exterior, I used to really like the front of it, especially from the harborside of the arena, before the HarborCenter was built. I liked the view of the glass exterior. Now it just feels like one big mega building (nothing wrong with it, it's just the old style was more my visual preference).
  10. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    Makes sense then. When you're talking about millions of dollars it would be silly not to do the extra bit of due diligence and make sure that a major renovation isn't more than the cost of a whole new venue.
  11. MILLwasbetter

    MILLwasbetter Well-Known Member

    ARF- the documentary was I believe a 2 piece series and it was on MSG, it may be on demand but is definitely on youtube. It is crazy how they did all of that work and didn't tear down the building. New walk ways, new seating set up, entire new sections, new concourses. All within the same walls. It's really cool to see.

    I thought the bridge seating was an awesome idea and would love to sit up there.

    I think KBC needs a paint job at the very least. I also would prefer something to Lucas Oil Field, it would fit the city better.

    I also think the power of good lighting does wonders. If KBC was lit up like SaskTel is for games it would look great. Blue for Sabres, Orange for Bandits. All the way around the upper rim.
  12. UncleBenny

    UncleBenny Member

    I don't know what's really wrong with the KBC, it seems fine for what it is. My major complaints are all really just personal preference things:
    • Too quiet sometimes, because of the high roof? I don't know, but it just seems to lack atmosphere to me.
    • Too bright. I hate when arenas have all their lights on during games, would rather have them dim the seating bowl lighting more and have the focus on play.
    • It's cold. I get that they play hockey in there but damn it is cold in that building sometimes.
    As far as the entrance, concessions, bathrooms, etc, I don't really have a problem with any of that stuff there, seems crazy to explore building a completely new arena already.
  13. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    I actually did sit in the bridge seats at Bellator NYC at MSG last summer, and I have to say it certainly was a unique experience. I really don't suggest it for someone who has a bad fear of heights because I don't have a fear of heights but even I was a bit fearful of sitting up there at first.

    Also, I agree, the KBC definitely feels colder inside in the past couple years than it did about 10 years ago. Not sure what the difference is. But also I notice the lights in the upper deck are pretty dim during the games, which used to be a pet peeve of mine when I was a kid but I don't mind it as much now.
  14. UncleBenny

    UncleBenny Member

    I wish the lower bowl was as dark as the upper bowl, personally. One arena that does that very well, and it probably doesn't hurt that all the seats are black as well, is Barclay's Center down in Brooklyn.
  15. MILLwasbetter

    MILLwasbetter Well-Known Member

    I think its quiet because 1 its a sabres game and they've always been quiet. 2 the team is down right putrid for the last 8 years. That arena gets loud when people have something to cheer for.
  16. GoKHawksGo

    GoKHawksGo Active Member

    Marisa Ingemi‏ @Marisa_Ingemi 3h3 hours ago
    Per a couple sources, in light of upcoming Halifax press conference regarding the NLL - sounding more likely than not it will be the Knighthawks relocating. NOT for this season.
  17. AFedyk

    AFedyk Guest

    Will an expansion team replace them or is that it? Maybe conditional on arena improvements?
  18. UncleBenny

    UncleBenny Member

    Going to be pretty hard going into a new season to put my support behind a team that we know is leaving after the year is up. I only have a deposit down on my tickets so far, might be time to write that off as a loss and take a year off. Obviously waiting to see what they have to say next week though.
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2018
  19. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    The talk originally was that Styres would sell the Hawks to Pegula Sports and then Styres would be given the expansion franchise in Halifax. But it was last reported there were issues with that for both sides.

    It's messy but hopefully everyone gets some of what they want.
  20. mtbf

    mtbf Well-Known Member

    Pegula should by the Hawks move them to Buffalo and fold the Bandits
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