Looks like ticket sales are weak

Discussion in 'Rochester Knighthawks Forum' started by mtbf, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Bandits37

    Bandits37 Member

    Wait so you're telling me despite having an elite, relatively young team Rochester fans aren't buying tickets?.....

  2. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    The highest average yearly attendance the Black Wolves have had is 5,557 (last year) which would be tied for the lowest amount of the casino's WNBA team.
  3. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    Don’t forget their attendance is based on 7072 the suns is based on 9,323
  4. R.J

    R.J Guest

    MLSE was interested a couple of years ago, but Dawick is all in, so it's a waiting game now I suppose. A move to Coca Cola Coliseum could work if the team were owned by MLSE since MLSE also operates that venue, but aside from maybe the rent being a bit lower, it wouldn't make much sense for Dawick. I've mentioned this before, and I still think the Rock under MLSE would work, but I hope they'd keep 'em at Scotiabank Arena. That would be my only real concern with them.
  5. unspoken

    unspoken Member

    Generally speaking, I agree. The only thing they might factor in is opportunity costs. They could have concerts on weekend nights which would massively outdraw lacrosse. So all the games would become Sunday afternoon games which might not draw as well as what they are getting now.

    Also, from what I understand they're phasing out their Buy One Get One Free promo for season tickets which could cause a drop as well.
  6. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    Their bogo deal ended after the 2017 season
    And they still have primarily Sunday afternoon games, but did get some more Saturday nights this season
  7. R.J

    R.J Guest

    Yeah, this Franchise doesn't really scream success to me.
  8. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    I'm slowly wishing that MLSE would buy the Rock. It's not that I dislike Dawick (I don't like him as a GM, but as an owner I have no real problems), but I'd just like to see the team draw more at the gate. Maybe a best case scenario would be that MLSE buys the Rock, but Dawick still runs the team without the financial burden directly hitting him.
  9. RockStar

    RockStar Well-Known Member

    MLSE has turned most of its properties to gold, or potential gold in the last several years.

    FC wins, Laffs and cRaptors, deep teams, doing well this year, look like it is within the realm of possibility soon.

    Argos are one exception, 2017 Grey Cup larceny aside, the team has epitomized suckitude a lot of years in recent memory, but, CFL is sort of like NLL....get the right coach and front office and can go from worst to first in a single off season......make a couple of good hires, set a generous-ish budget, and, they'll be in the final in three or four more years.

    Hypothetically I think that as long as MLSE hired a smart lacrosse guy to be president, and that guy hired the GM without interference from the hockey guys and the suits, it could be an overall positive. MLSE ownership just happens to have a near monopoly on telecasted sports media in this market, so, at the very least, you'd imagine that reasonable quality telecasts would end up on one of their IP based channels. I expect they would keep ticket prices reasonable-ish

    One would assume that Rock has to be a semi-attractive property for MLSE at a certain price. I do not even figure they have to be generous......they have all of the cards except for the title to the team, so it would be insanely easy for them to make a bully lowball offer

    (Here is our offer.
    We cannot pay any higher.
    If you are unhappy with this offer, you may keep your team and continue to operate in Toronto with our best wishes for prosperity.
    Please note, however, that neither the ACC, nor Ricoh are available to rent on any of the dates you desire.....)

    So, anyway, if they wanted this asset, they could basically just steal it......and they have not done so...........so, as of right now, it is crystal clear that they don't want this asset.
  10. R.J

    R.J Guest

    Aside from the fact that Dawick has made it clear he isn't interesting in selling...
  11. RockStar

    RockStar Well-Known Member

    he is not......but, even so, MLSE could make it nearly impossible to operate in Toronto if they wanted the team for themselves.

    the fact that they have not tells me they dont care and are not interested
  12. k-hawksfan33

    k-hawksfan33 Well-Known Member

    It really feels like the season is upon us now that the annual "Knighthawks attendance looks weak this year" thread :rolleyes:

  13. k-hawksfan33

    k-hawksfan33 Well-Known Member

    On a completely unrelated note:

    Our new black jerseys are sexy as f*ck
  14. Wings-4-Life

    Wings-4-Life Well-Known Member

    Pics would be nice...
  15. Bandits37

    Bandits37 Member

    **And this cheer echoes through the mostly empty building as an intern tries to rev up the dozens and dozens of fans who bothered to show up**
  16. MrWilson

    MrWilson Member

    9753.jpeg Not as good as the black jersey from the early 2000's...
  17. KHawkTobey

    KHawkTobey Member

    I don't normally agree with a Bandits fan, but I think you are dead on. This lame duck season will be the death knell for Rochester NLL (including the red-headed "expansion team" the league has foisted on us). Too bad - another example of the city of Rochester shooting itself in the foot.
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  18. IAmDroot

    IAmDroot Guest

    Those are super bland, also could maybe use a bit more purple
  19. Wings-4-Life

    Wings-4-Life Well-Known Member

    I'm curious to see how many of the long-timers and die-hards call it quits after this season.

    Same with the Wings... it seems most of us are back, but I won't have an official number until Saturday.
  20. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    This. If the end of the Knighthawks is near, I don't think that this ownership/moving thing will be the reason why so many people leave. It'll be because of the amount of casuals that stopped showing up over the course of the decade.

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