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Major expansion plan...

Discussion in 'NLL News and Rumors' started by BanditsRock11, Feb 20, 2017.

  1. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    The AHL team plays in an arena that seats just under 13k for hockey.
  2. swami24

    swami24 Well-Known Member

    Did some sesrching, and remembering from my visit to the area 30 yrs ago.

    The arena seats 12900 for hockey, and currently hosts an AHL and soccer team. Their site says they have spent 5 million on renovations in recent years. If owned by a casino enity, they are obviously following NE's model. The ahl team averages over 9000, information on the soccer team is limited.

    The location is close to Sea world and Mission Bay. It is (assuming it still is 30 yrs post) an absolutely beuatiful area.
    There is highway access and attractions that draw lots of people, so it seems like a good spot. Point Loma park was a great place to visit for panoramic views and oceanside tide pools.
  3. Andrew GEA

    Andrew GEA Guest

  4. Vin

    Vin Well-Known Member

    Officially in the rules, the NLL has two kinds of players: goalies and runners.
    I think a good name for the San Diego team would be the San Diego Runners and they should use the logo below.
    What's great is that there would already be plenty of promotion on the I-5, I-8, I-15, and I-805 freeways where signs of the logo could be seen.

    swami24 likes this.
  5. RockyMaivia

    RockyMaivia Active Member

    The Ardmore Aardvark is ready to make a TRIUMPHANT return to the WELLS FARGO CENTER in 2019.
  6. BigDave

    BigDave Active Member

    San Diego Orcas is my vote.
  7. Andrew GEA

    Andrew GEA Guest

    I still think a strong Canadian foundation for box lax is best. America as the big 4 in sports and way more. Out side of Toronto there's NHL, CFL and a couple soccer teams. Our market has room and interest for lacrosse, and I think a strong foundation should be made here.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_indoor_arenas_in_Canada here's a link for arena sizes for Canadian cities here's my Canadian priority list:

    1,New owner / venue in Vancouver (move Downtown and out of the LEC)

    2, keep Toronto in the acc (alt arena seats - 7,851)

    3,Team in Edmonton - stadium size 18,641
    4,Winnipeg - 15,291
    5, Ottawa - 19,153
    6,Montreal - 21,237
    7,Quebec City - 18,259
    8,Halifax - 10,595
    9, Hamilton - 17,383
    10, London - 9,100

    Im not expanding all at once but I think these cities should have serious talks with NLL. Since Toronto itself is so large I don't think Hamilton and London will take away from them. Toronto just has to be marketed better locally in Toronto. Plus advertising rivalries with Ottawa Hamilton and London will help.
  8. wacklax

    wacklax Member

    you are an idiot
  9. Andrew GEA

    Andrew GEA Guest

    Why don't you explain why you disagree
  10. wacklax

    wacklax Member

    The Stealth seem quite happy to plod along as they are. The valley is where most lax growth is occurring these days. There are enough players right now to maybe get up to 12 teams. If you bring back Philly and Edmonton that leaves room for 1 more. I just don't see it being another southern Ontario or Quebec team when Long Island has an empty building and a decent lax base. Lacrosse is a niche sport and it will always be that unfortunately.
  11. Andrew GEA

    Andrew GEA Guest

    I was talking about the long term goals for the league. It is definitely a niche in all countries, but it has the most potential to get mainstream in Canada. That's why I think the league should really focus on our markets.

    Southern Ontario has the largest group of lax fan, so it would make sense if it was represented more. If you look at aussie football they have 3 teams in Perth area and seven in another metro area. What ever works works essentially.
  12. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    I think a team in London or Windsor would be a better fit than a team in Hamilton. Lacrosse is just too much of a niche sport that I don't think a team in Hamilton and Toronto (at least, a Toronto team playing at the ACC) would be viable long-term. However, I think a city like London is far enough away from Buffalo and Toronto that it could work, but I think a team in Windsor would be the best fit because then you're also tapping into the Detroit market.
  13. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    Windsor's WFCU Centre holds 6,450 for hockey and is probably a little smaller than the NLL prefers. It would be bigger than Langley, though, and it could draw Detroit.
    Budweiser Gardens seats just over 9k for hockey and might be a better fit for the NLL if they can work with the London Knights on scheduling.

    I'd rather see the NLL go back into Detroit and the new arena that's opening this year.
  14. AmericanRockFan

    AmericanRockFan Well-Known Member

    You're probably correct on those points, in regards to the arena sizes in Windsor and in London. Personally, I also agree that I'd rather see Detroit get an NLL team at the new arena than see London or Windsor get a team.
  15. wacklax

    wacklax Member

    That new building in Detroit will be awful large for the nll won't it? How many will it seat?
  16. Vin

    Vin Well-Known Member

    I'd only go back to Detroit if the NLL team is owned by the Red Wings/Tigers/Little Caesar's owner, Ilitch Holdings.

    The arena is Little Caesar's Arena which seats 20k for hockey and lax.
    While Ilitch Holdings doesn't own the arena, their subsidiary, Olympia Entertainment has a FREE long-term lease on the arena as Ilitch Holdings will be a primary tenant and already has pumped a lot of money into the arena. So, while the Pistons will also be a tenant, an NLL team owned by Ilitch Holdings would not be snubbed. Overall, this is a situation akin to but not identical to the Colorado Mammoth.

    I also believe that Detroit would be good again for two reasons:
    1. Detroit is turning around as a city.
    2. Growth of lax in that area including Canada. I think investing in Canada is a good thing and Detroit is practically that and is in a good location for anchoring a "central" division if there ever was to be one again.
  17. Andrew GEA

    Andrew GEA Guest

    Detroit would be a great spot. Didn't someone post a few pages back a link about an owner wanting a team again?
  18. swami24

    swami24 Well-Known Member

    Only go back to Detroit if Peter Park can still beat up anyone around.
  19. smurf666

    smurf666 Guest

    get Kevin Dance to coach Detroit.
  20. Andrew GEA

    Andrew GEA Guest

    NLL posted on Facebook that they have 2 big live announcements tomorrow at 9am eastern time. Maybe this is the expansion release...

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