US Lacrose Magazine: multiple new expansion teams will be announced in coming weeks

Discussion in 'NLL News and Rumors' started by TofuBomb, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    Vinc will be a wing by October 15th
     
  2. toad455

    toad455 Member

    Maybe Georgia will be relocated. San Francisco may wait until 2020-2021 just due to the arena possibly being delayed.

    Georgia to New York and add Boston as expansion team. Only 13 teams for 2019-2020 . Add in San Francisco, Dallas & Montreal for 2020-21(16 teams). League caps off at 16 teams.
     
  3. Vin

    Vin Well-Known Member

    Georgia may move but it would only do so after being sold to an NHL/NBA team. I can't see the Arlottas moving yet again. Denise Watkins did that with the Stealth moving them from San Jose to Washington to Vancouver before selling to the Canucks. I would imagine that the Arlottas would sell to an interested buyer with serious $$ like an NBA/NHL team and then those new owners would do the move.
     
  4. IAmDroot

    IAmDroot Guest

    I think 16 is a good cap for the # of teams in the league.
     
  5. BIG E NY

    BIG E NY Member

    That would be a good scenario. Give another year for teams 14-16. NY starting with a quality team vs. expansion would be a smart move for the market.
     
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  6. AFedyk

    AFedyk Guest

    My ideal situation, just to keep it balanced I’d cut out Boston for now and Georgia can get sold to Mark Cuban in Dallas.

    Vancouver
    Calgary
    Sask
    Colorado
    San Diego
    San Fran
    Georgia->Dallas

    Halifax
    Toronto
    Buffalo
    Rochester
    New England
    New York
    Philadelphia
     
  7. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    Are you trolling with that remark or are you serious?

    Because if you're serious, what would be the motivation for Vinc to sign with an expansion team this year? Why would he leave a team that was in the Finals last year for an expansion team? It's still status quo in Rochester for this coming year with Styres running the team. And the Hawks are likely the favorites to win the East again.
     
  8. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    L
    did I say Philadelphia I meant New England
    Mixed my allegiances up
     
  9. IAmDroot

    IAmDroot Guest

    Consistency with Paul Day.

    Are the K'Hawks favorites without Vinc? Does Vinc make any team an instant contender?
     
  10. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    Favorites without Vinc? No. But who's the Hawks goalie? Goodleaf? The defense is still good but Goodleaf is not at Vinc's level.

    Vinc on a team with a weak defense does not make that team an instant contender. It makes them better better but not the automatic favorites.
     
  11. chuckster

    chuckster Well-Known Member

    OK, then what's his motivation to sign in NE?

    I'm asking because I don't see how he can find a better situation than what he's got in Rochester for 1 more year.

    Still Styres as owner.
    Still the best overall team in the East with a great defense in front of him.
    Still close to his home in St. Catharines.
    Still making (likely) the veteran max.

    So.....why NE? Or are you just making crap up again for your own self amusement? :rolleyes:
     
  12. RockStar

    RockStar Well-Known Member

    imagine a league where Nick Rose is a top third goalie......and the bottom of the second third is basically a development league guy.

    with the big nets, defence-softening rules, and addition of the next 60% of defence talent to the league, this is going to be hilarious.

    i predict new scoring records
     
  13. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    I dunno but it seems odd he hasn’t signed yet along with a few other key free agents
     
  14. TofuBomb

    TofuBomb Guest

    People saying they want the league to cap it out at 16 — you mean for the short term, right? Because I definitely want a 30-team league eventually. If the NLL is popular enough to sustain that many clubs, lacrosse will have developed to the point that necessary talent is available.
     
  15. Vin

    Vin Well-Known Member

    You know when lacrosse "will have made it"?
    When you see lacrosse sticks being sold at Wal*Mart.
     
  16. LordStanley1893

    LordStanley1893 Active Member

    Fixed :D
     
  17. Hollywood42

    Hollywood42 Well-Known Member

    They sell them at mine
     
  18. wacklax

    wacklax Active Member

    I have seen kids sticks at mine as well.
     
  19. unspoken

    unspoken Member

    Here's a question (and I don't have the answer)... how would New England's attendance be affected by Philly getting the Wings back, and a expansion franchise in Boston? We're talking about Georgia relocating, which is entirely possible, but things can't look good for New England either. Their building only holds something like 7100, and a good number of those seats are trash as you can't even see the net nearest to you in the upper bowl.

    I know their business model is different because of being tied to the casino, but I found it interesting when I did an analysis a few months ago regarding season ticket prices of each team in the league. Based on what I could find on the websites of each team, if you were sitting in the side section of the lower bowl, anywhere from 5-15 rows up, in New England you're paying the 4th highest per game price in the league for STHs that renewed from years prior (and got the buy one, get one half off deal), and the highest per-game price in the league if you're a new STH. You'd figure they would have cheap tickets in order to get people out spending money in the casino and the shops as offshoots of the game. Scheduling is also an issue. They did put a few games on Saturdays this year, but last year there wasn't as they know they can do way better selling that building for concerts and other events than they can for a Black Wolves game. So in addition to a move of the Swarm, is there potential that the Boston team isn't an expansion team, but is a relocation of the Black Wolves?
     
  20. AFedyk

    AFedyk Guest

    Reply to above^

    I think you are onto something. Nik said only three new teams were going the league. Halifax/Rochester, Boston, New York, SF. Math doesn’t add up haha.
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2018

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